NatOrg Discussion Extended Period 31 July –19 August
After what seems like a long hiatus (and
some discussion about viruses) we’re back to discussing the natorg with the
membership issue coming into full view again.
- Wellington recently had a social get together where we
discussed the issue and decided some things, minutes of that meeting are
available on the nasf website. Essentially we came down to two membership
options, AGM/con to AGM/con or a fixed yearly period of an as yet
unspecified date. We also discussed the intangible benefits to fans of
joining the organisation.
We established again that expiry dates at Christmas are not a
We discussed at length the fact that with membership dates
there could be a lot of work for the natcon to do rather than the natorg
and that there could be a lot of flicking back and forth of information
which has the potential for problems.
A question arose over if you are already a natorg member, and
natcon membership gets you natorg membership, do you get a discount from
the natcon? We could treat it as those at the natcon are members of the
natorg for that weekend only.
Norman has called for questions to be asked during the voting
on memberships and has gone ahead and written up some questions. They are
now being voted on and can be checked at the website.
We talked about why a fixed membership date away from cons is
more preferable to tying it to a con, and James pointed out that we don’t
want to give fans the idea that most of what the Natorg does is the
convention, that we plan to do other things as well.
There was concern over how much administrative work is involved
in each of the membership options both for the natcon and natorg.
Discounts again came under discussion. Are they something the
natorg should get into? The general consensus was that this would attract
some fen to the natorg and also increase the profile of SF books and the
SF community in general.
There was concern raised about paying membership fees and
perhaps we should be looking for sponsorship for the organisation. If we
can get the sponsorship why not make it free? But if people pay something
they have a vested interest in how the organisation runs. Also people were
concerned about using sponsorship (which can be fickle) for base expenses,
when really we should rely on membership fees for the base expenses and
use sponsorship for extras.
But in order to get sponsorship we decided that we needed a
name and some members first, which brought up the inevitable discussion
about names again.
- Peter came up with some suggested workings for our suggestions
after the meeting and they have been the basis for discussions of late.
- NZNBSF: NZ national board of science fiction
- NZSFF or NZSF&FF? :New Zealand Science Fiction
or New Zealand Science Fiction & Fantasy Foundation
- SFFANZ (which has come up before and is generally well liked).
However, it could get confused with sf fans.
- NZSFFF (NZ Science Fiction & Fantasy Foundation
- NONZSFF or NOSFF (pronounced nunzf or nussf)